the u.s. is still growing. maybe that's proof that our cut-throat version of capitalism works despite the social costs. >> one of the reasons the american economy is now growing is the government has done substantial stimulus spending whereas one of the reasons that europe is in such bad shape is that they have actually been cutting government spending from their former baseline, so, in fact, in the past couple of years, the trends have been -- have been opposite what they have been for 30 years. the europeans have been much more austere, you know, countries like britain cutting government spending whereas in the united states there was a big effort, which is now sort of like dwindling, but there was initially a very big stimulus effort. >> just 30 seconds left, the fundamental issue here is americans want the benefits of big government, medicare, social security, jobless checks when they need it, loans to buy a house, loans to go to college, but they also want small government, and that small government thing